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Blu-Ray haters?

Posted by Mouse on Tuesday, January 27, 2009

Am I the only one who doesn't like the way Blu-Ray looks? I find the image to be unrealistic and ugly. An editor explained to me that this is because of the absence of motion blur as one would normally find in film. Is this true? Why does it look so bad? Have I just not experienced the true glory of Blu-Ray?

Techygeeks please retort.

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Posted: 10 years 38 weeks ago

I remember writing at length about my feelings toward film versus digital projection over on ExcelsiorNews, but I can't seem to find the post. Granted, said post would only be of vague relation to yours.

I am posting what I *did* manage to find, just so I didn't search in vain (new text starts up again after asterisks):

I have yet to be impressed with any of the big screen HD pictures I have seen. I have been to the electronics sections of many stores, and I have seen many "sweet setups" set up sweetly. The results are always the same--sluggish, pixelated. It looks like I am watching something on an expensive computer monitor. It could just be that, as has been suggested, the tech kids might have bungled something in the setting up. I don't know. It looks the same in St. Louis, Berlin, London and Chicago as it does in Alabama, though. To me, at least. They were even playing Planet Earth in the brand-new, big-ass Saturn in Berlin (the one across from the Kaiser Wilhelm Memorial Chapel). Looked worse than it did on my mother's decidedly non-HD nineteen-inch.

I once saw Attack of the Clones on an HD screen, and it looked absolutely terrible. The actors really, really stood out from the backgrounds. The separation was so jarring I was taken back nearly two decades to going over to a friend's house to watch Captain Power, which, in turn, took me back to watching the classic Krofft Land of the Lost on AFN.

So I guess seeing Attack of the Clones in HD wasn't all bad, despite it still being Attack of the Clones. (I should point out that I saw Attack of the Clones projected digitally while it was in theaters, and it looked much better then than it did on the HD screen.) I'll take a bad viewing experience any day if it leads to fond memories of non-bad viewing experiences.

* * *

The above may look like a defense of digital projection in theaters--and I guess it is, where Attack of the Clones is concerned. Truth is, though, I am not a fan of that, either (surprise!). I remember the first time I saw a movie projected digitally. The old green preview card came up, and I immediately noticed something that struck me as odd. The white text was remaining completely static over the green field behind it. That faint, floating text effect that occurs when multiple frames per second are flashing past a light was gone, and it was disconcerting. There was no wear on the movie at any point, and it occurred to me there never would be. That really bothered me. Movies are supposed to wear with time. Colors are supposed to bleed. It all seemed unnatural--grotesque, even. Digital resolution is too sharp, colors are too saturated, and, as stated above, I feel like I am looking at a computer monitor.

I still have yet to like/resign myself to the look of HD in most cases. Digital cartoons benefit the most from digital projection. This is as it should be. They were built digitally from the ground up, so to speak, so seeing them projected digitally (or watching them on Blu-Ray on an HD television) makes sense, and even "feels" right.

I have been told that I sit too close to the screen in the theater and stand to close to the televisions in the electronics stores. The person who suggested this to me compared what my brain was doing with the pixels to what the eye does to a pointillist painting when it scrutinizes it too closely. This may be. At the same time, though, I sit just as close to the screen when I am watching a movie shown on film, and I stand just as close to my television when I am watching DVDs on it.

Speaking of DVDs, it's awful what HD television does to the older ones when you try to watch them. In the worst cases, the resolution is on par with that of a YouTube video.

Truth is, I just don't like change.

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Posted: 10 years 38 weeks ago

And what's with that damn blue bar on the dvd cases? It's like, we'll take the artwork from the regular dvd, only make it smaller and less appealing. What they should do is put the bar on the non-blu-ray dvds that state "THIS IS NOT A BLU-RAY DISC!"

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Posted: 10 years 38 weeks ago

I loves me some tech, but I have yet to see anything that makes me want to upgrade and stop buying DVD's.

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Posted: 10 years 37 weeks ago

I walked into one of those overpriced Sony stores in a local over-priced mall, and in the "viewing roomn" in back, with all the McFurniture and McSilk Plants and such, they had several areas proudly displaying their movies on their systems. They had Spiderman 3 on (what I can only ascertain was blu-ray) one large screen, and it looked just like what you said, Goiter.... Land of the Lost. It was heinous.... cheezy 70's video quality with terriby integrated CGI, and it just took you right out of the movie (not that it's anything I would want to immerse myself into.) Not ONE of the people standing there had a good thing to say about what we were seeing. And to think that people pay through their freakin' noses for this.

As far as large screen tv's.... Plasma looks the absolute worst, and it's the most expensive, isn't it? More power consumption, heavier, more heat coming off it....epic fail. And just like you said, the images look like badly artifacted jpegs. I've not heard a single adequate response from a salesperson (oh, yeah, right, like that will ever happen) concerning this.

The thing is, though, I'll never EVER again buy a cathode ray TV or monitor. Hate 'em.

I figure my next purchase will in fact end up being an HD widescreen tv, but I'm absolutely not in any hurry to get one.

What concerns me is what you said about regular dvd's playing on a blu-ray player. I have waaaay to goddern many dvd's to settle for a downgrade in quality. DOes this mean I will always have to get a standard dvd player to get the most of of my tandard dvd's? (No, I'm not one of those cretins that thinks playing a standard dvd on a blu-ray will magically enhance it, but MORE importantly, I'm not one of those cretin salesmen that feels he has to explain to me that this would be the case.)

I think I'll take Christian Bale with me when I go shopping for home entertainment.

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Posted: 10 years 31 weeks ago

Hmm, well I bought an HD TV (40" Samsung) last fall, as well as a PS3 for Blu-Ray. Since then I've amassed nearly 70 Blu-Ray movies (I was addicted to Amazon's deals of the day for a while). I've only watched about half of them so far (I'm behind on EVERYTHING), but I think they look absolutely amazing. There's been maybe one or two that haven't blown by socks off, but the majority look unbelievably beautiful to me.

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Posted: 10 years 6 weeks ago

I was visiting a videophile friend of mine last weekend and he was displaying his HDTV and blu-ray form me...... he put on 2001: A Space Odyssey, a movie I always considered to be as close to perfection as any movie could be, especially so in its visuals and effects.

HOWEVER... Blu-Ray picks up and amplifies EVERY little imperfection that there is.

The floating pen? Stuck with a piece of low-tack tape to a pane of glass, and the pane of glass was turned to simulate zero-gravity floating. Except, in Blu-Ray, you see smudges and little spots all over the glass.

Dawn of Man sequence? Exquisite use of back-projected 8x10 transparencies of the African Wildreness, combined with sound stage sets. Except, in Blu-Ray, you see all the imperfections and spots on the screen that the African 8x10 transparencies are being projected onto.

Glaringly so.

I only made it that far before I had to leave, so I'd be interested to see what else shows up that you're not supposed to see.