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Dead Island

Posted by Jakester on Friday, September 9, 2011

Has anyone else started playing it?

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The Swollen Goi... wrote:

That makes it sound like you want to smoke him.

And, honestly, who doesn't?

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Mal Shot First wrote:

I'm seriously behind on my video games. I'm just now getting into Fallout 3... and I only get about one or two hours a day to play it. At the pace that I usually play RPGs I might get done with it about this time next year.

It seems I overestimated how long it was going to take me to finish up Fallout 3, but after about 82 hours of play time I've finally wrapped up the main quest last night. It sounds like a lot, but considering that I started playing it in the second half of August, those 82 hours were stretched over a long period of time.

Even though I liked the game in general, I feel that the main quest is actually pretty week. There is no real final confrontation in the sense of a boss battle (there is the possibility of having something like a boss battle with General Autumn, one of the two antagonists, but you can talk your way out of it if your speech skill is high enough, and even if you choose to fight it's not a very challenging battle).

The game's strong point is the enormous and detailed world that Bethesda Softworks has created based on the previous two installments, so that even at the 82-hour mark I've only discovered about half the locations on the map, and I don't even know how many side quests that means I have missed. Of course, at this point I have very little motivation left to explore these areas. They could have done a better job arranging the side quests in such a way that they branch off more naturally from the main quest, or tying in the side quests you have completed into the final account of your accomplishments in the game world. As it stands, the final cinematic sequence evaluates your impact on the Capital Wasteland in relatively vague terms without truly highlighting most of the contributions your character has made to this post-apocalyptic society (one exception is the restoration of Abraham Lincoln's head on the Lincoln Memorial, which they do show in the end). The first two Fallout games were much more satisfying in that regard.

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Yeah, the main questline in Fallout 3 is probably the least interesting thing about it.  There are some great sidequests though, and I enjoyed all the DLC episodes they released as well, especially The Pitt.

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Yeah, when I bought Fallout 3 I got the Game of the Year Edition, so all the DLC came bundled with it, but I haven't decided if I'm going to try it. I would be curious to see The Pitt, just based on the description that Paladin Kodiak gives you when you talk to him at the Citadel. I also read on-line that you can get an alternate ending for the main quest if you have Broken Steel installed because the game lets you ask your companion (in my case Fawkes) to go into the irradiated control room and activate Project Purity.

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You people know we have a whole forum dedicated to games, right? :)

I finished Fallout 3, but I really need to get back to New Vegas. Hell, I still need to finish GTA4. My problem is that I get distracted and have a hard time getting back into games like this. I guess that's why I usually stick to FPS's like Modern Warfare and Battlefield.

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They *all* look like first-person shooters to me.  Except for the side-scrollers and party games, I mean.  If I have two games that are side-scrollers, I am able to intellectualize that there is a chance that they could be very different.  All the 360-degree environment games, on the other hand, just look like the same game to me.

I guess I should take this as a sign of getting old.

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omicron wrote:

Jakester, you do know we have a whole forum dedicated to video games, don't you?

omicron wrote:

You people know we have a whole forum dedicated to games, right? :)

You keep bringing up this point, so I'm very much aware that we have a video game forum :)
I posted something in a thread there, once, and it took a couple of months for anybody to respond in that same thread - and the response was to some other post in it. I've decided that I'm not the pioneer type, so I'm not going to try to establish life where there is none. If somebody succeeds in setting up a community of two or three regular posters over on that board, I'd be happy to participate, but until that happens I'll keep my video game talk confined to the Lounge.




The Swollen Goi... wrote:

They *all* look like first-person shooters to me.  Except for the side-scrollers and party games, I mean.  If I have two games that are side-scrollers, I am able to intellectualize that there is a chance that they could be very different.  All the 360-degree environment games, on the other hand, just look like the same game to me.I guess I should take this as a sign of getting old.

I think it's getting difficult for me to distinguish FPS games from each other that are set in realistic worlds. The Modern Warfare, Battlefield, and Call of Duty titles all look the same to me. It would be quite a stretch, though, to compare a game like Fallout 3 to any one of those three. It would be like saying that the classic Mario games and Sonic games are pretty much the same because they both feature platforming elements and a 2D side-scrolling perspective.

I have to admit that I was very skeptical when it was first announced that the Fallout universe was moving into a first-person-view environment. I feared that the FPS elements would dominate a game that is not supposed to be a FPS title. It was a moment of relief when I realized that the third installment had retained so many RPG elements. The first two Fallout games were very much rooted in a tabletop RPG tradition (even to the extent that the player character moved across the map over a series of hexagonal spaces and had a number of action points to spend on each move during battle encounters). Even though Fallout 3 moved the series into a more contemporary gaming environment, it remains very much a RPG at heart.

Certainly, you can play the game like a shooter and invest heavily into your Small Guns and Big Guns skills, but that's just one way to go about it. Even though there aren't explicit classes like in traditional RPGs, you can basically create a rogue-type character, a close-combat heavy-hitter, or a ranged weapons expert, depending on how you invest the experience points you get when you level up. If anything, my biggest complaint about Fallout 3 is that you're not really forced to specialize in one area, so that even as a jack-of-all-trades you can be extremely powerful in multiple categories. For example, by the time I reached the endgame, I had reached level 20 (the maximum allowed by the game) and had maxed out my Small Guns and Speech skills, but I also had very high levels in Science, Lockpick, Repair, and Energy Weapons (all above 90/100), and my Medicine skill was also fairly high. Bethesda could have done a better job balancing the player character.

One of my favorite parts about the game is that it doesn't force you to conduct combat in real time. V.A.T.S. allows you to target specific areas of the opponents' anatomy in exchange for action points, so that you don't actually need to aim your weapon and shoot manually the way you would in a shooter game. Aside from the fact that you see the game world from a first-person perspective and often have a gun bobbing in front of you, the resemblance between Fallout 3 and contemporary FPS titles is relatively limited.

Long story short, you're getting old, Goiter.

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I've tried to get some traffic into the VG forum. Maybe it's just my sisyphean task to try and breathe life into a dead forum :) I've started or updated several threads based on the Battlefield, Modern Warfare, GTA, and Batman games.

Anyways, I do agree with your point about balancing. And that might be the problem with open-world sandbox game. Since you're not forced to do anything in a particular order, it seems to be hard for the developer to scale the game to the character. I believe I also had maxed my character well before I was close to finishing the main storyline. I've come across some of this in the new Batman game also, since I didn't really jump into the main storyline but just went out exploring and leveling. Now that I am playing the main story, the first few encounters, Two-Face and Penguin, were very easy because I had upgraded my combat skills and suit.

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My goal is to get all conversations to happen in the video game forum, and then eventually have someone post in a non-video game thread "You know we have a Lounge, right?"

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If it ever happens that the boards are fixed to where it's clear from the forums page which individual boards have new posts, I think people will be more inclined to spread out.

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 Spread 'em, Goits!

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Pun intended?

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 Of course.

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Off course.

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My experience with Fallout 3 was very similar to Mal's. I picked up the game upon release (I love Fallouts 1 & 2), and proceeded to draw out the game over several months. It may have been a full year later until I actually beat it. It never fully sucked me in like the previous Fallout games (and other great RPGs), but I always found myself going back to it. Strangely, I've been wanting to go back and play it again, and this time make the choices *I* want to make. I have a bad habit of choosing the path that would net the most experience and therefore lead to a stronger character. Like Mal, I started off with the intention of playing the game through my character a certain way (I wanted to be a thief with very strong lockpick/pickpocket and conversation skills) but by the end of the game I was a walking tank.    

 

I rarely buy games. Most of the time I will rent a game like Modern Warfare 3, blast through the campagin and dabble with the multiplayer for a few days until I get bored with it. I find that very, very, very few games warrant the full price tag. I will be buying the Halo Anniversary edition as well as Elder Scrolls Skyrim, and once I get in a better spot to rent games (only options are Redbox, which is too pricey for video game rentals) the first on my list is Batman Arkham City. Thanks Chuck, I'll hang up and listen!

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I also have strong patience when it comes to gaming. I am selective in what I buy, which means I do not have to necessarily have new titles the second they are released. I love bargain video game buying. Usually I wait until Gamestop (or similar outlet) does a buy 1 get 1 (or buy 2 get 1) on used games. I plan on buying Dead Island this way, as a matter of fact!

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 I almost never buy games either.

That's not to say I pirate a lot of games. I think the first game I pirated in recent memory was Dead Island, and I'm glad I did because it's not worth $50. It was okay, but incredibly buggy. I'd like to play it through again, but I'll wait until it's $20-30 to pick it up.

Heck, I bought Ghostbusters and am only now getting around to finishing it.

I'm trying to decide if I need to also pick up Skyrim.

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Strider wrote:

Yeah, the main questline in Fallout 3 is probably the least interesting thing about it.  There are some great sidequests though, and I enjoyed all the DLC episodes they released as well, especially The Pitt.

[I posted the following in the Video Game forum, but I'll also post it here so it won't feel like I'm talking to myself.]

I finally got around to playing The Pitt DLC a few weeks ago. It was a pretty interesting storyline and I appreciated that they raised the stakes by temporarily taking away all of my character's equipment. Fortunately, I still had my Light Step and Animal Friend perks or otherwise just crossing the bridge into the city would have been fucking brutal.

Based on the two possible outcomes of this quest, I'd say that it's probably one of the most morally ambiguous sub-plots in Fallout 3. Neither of the two possible paths really made me feel good about my role in the slave uprising, which was kind of a welcome change from the good/bad karma choices you're usually presented with.

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I bought Dead Island used about a month ago, but still haven't played it. I recently played through the Assasin's Creed 2 sequels, which were fun. I'm on Halo 4 now but already getting bored with it.

I think an Arkham City ( used) purchase is in my future.

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Arkham City is an awesome game. I've got it and really need to finish it.

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 Arkham City is one of the best games I've played. It took forever, but I got 100% completion.

I finally got around to Skyrim. That's also a fantastic game. It's absolutely gorgeous. Picked up the two DLCs as well and am looking forward to Dragonborn.

Now that City of Heroes has been unceremoniously shuttered (why didn't you buy it, Dalty?!), I've jumped into The Secret World. It's extremely different from any MMO I've payed, and while the teaming isn't as easy as in CoH, it's still plenty fun, and I like the story-driven aspect of the game. Plus, you can solo most of the content.

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 I love some video games.  I just never get the time to be well and truly good at them.

....says "Kill Bond, NOW!"
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Cut back on those vacations.

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 It would be cheaper.....

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Every now and then I fire up Super Mario Bros. I somehow lose the muscle memory it takes to sail through the eights. I play it for a few weeks, curse my way through hundreds of deaths, and finally get back to where I'm beating it with ease. 

I've just gotten back to the point where I can beat it with ease. (I'm sure no one will latch on to these last couple sentences for their comic potential.) It took a little longer than it took last time around, thanks to the kid.

Damned kid!