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A jihad on...... South Park

Posted by Daltons chin dimple on Wednesday, April 21, 2010

The radical Islamic Web site Revolutionmuslim.com is going after the creators of the TV cartoon series "South Park" after an episode last week included an image of the Prophet Mohammed in disguise.

Revolutionmuslim.com, based in New York, was the subject of a CNN investigation last year for its radical rhetoric supporting “jihad” against the West and praising al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden. Its organizers insist they act within the law and seek to protect Islam.

On Sunday, Revolutionmuslim.com posted an entry that included a warning to South Park creators Trey Parker and Matt Stone that they risk violent retribution – after the 200th episode last week included a satirical discussion about whether an image of the prophet could be shown. In the end, he is portrayed disguised in a bear suit.

The posting on Revolutionmuslim.com says: “We have to warn Matt and Trey that what they are doing is stupid and they will probably wind up like Theo Van Gogh for airing this show. This is not a threat, but a warning of the reality of what will likely happen to them.”

Theo van Gogh was a Dutch filmmaker who was murdered by an Islamic extremist in 2004 after making a short documentary on violence against women in some Islamic societies. The posting on Revolutionmuslim.com features a graphic photograph of Van Gogh with his throat cut and a dagger in his chest.

The entry on Revolutionmuslim.com goes on to advise readers:

“You can contact them [the makers of South Park], or pay Comedy Central or their own company a visit at these addresses …” before listing Comedy Central’s New York address, and the Los Angeles, California, address of Parker and Sloane’s production company.

Contacted by CNN, the author of the post, Abu Talhah al Amrikee, said that providing the addresses was not intended as a threat to the creators of South Park but to give people the opportunity to protest.

Over still photographs of Parker, Stone, van Gogh and others, the Web site runs audio of a sermon by the radical U.S.-born preacher Anwar al-Awlaki, who is now in hiding in Yemen. The sermon, recorded some time ago, talks about assassinating those who have “defamed” the Prophet Mohammed – citing one religious authority as saying “Harming Allah and his messenger is a reason to encourage Muslims to kill whoever does that.” U.S. officials say al-Awlaki is on a list of al Qaeda leaders targeted for capture or assassination.

The clip ends with a warning on a graphic directed at Parker and Stone, saying “The Dust Will Never Settle Down.”

Al Amrikee said the purpose of including the al-Awlaki sermon in his posting was to remind Muslims that insulting the prophet is a severe offense for which the punishment in Islam is death. He said RevolutionMuslim may hold protests about the show.

Calls to Comedy Central were not returned.

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Jihads aren't what they used to be.

I declare a jihad on my toaster for burning my toast this morning.

The Swollen Goi...
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The ball was dropped (or the shark was jumped) with the Salman Rushdie jihad. That jihad is nearly one-quarter-century outstanding.

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Just remember to say that Islam is a religion of peace. They will kill you if you don't.

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Daltons chin dimple wrote:

Just remember to say that Islam is a religion of peace. They will kill you if you don't.

Some Christian fundamentalists in the U.S. would like a word with you.

Think of me as a megaphone directed at God's eardrum, my child.
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Have you ever seen Jesus Camp? It's on YouTube in nine parts. Have a look:



(A Word of Warning: scan the Wikipedia entry first. Depending on your personal beliefs, the above may strike you as child abuse. If you suspect it will strike you this way, and if you don't feel you can bear witness to such a thing, you may want to skip the documentary.)

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I'm making the rare decision not to engage in a topic in which I have engaged with some regularity in the past. I do my best to remain respectful of others' systems of belief.

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If the YouTube's ten-minute limit annoys you, the film can be viewed in one piece on Atheist Nation: http://www.atheistnation.net/video/?video/00118/atheist/jesus-camp/

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Watching that clip forced the love of Jesus into my heart. I hope you're happy, Thursty.

In all seriousness, folks, I saw that 'Jesus Camp' movie back when it came out on DVD. I thought the trailer was smash, but the doco itself was a bit of a letdown. I'm not really sure why people got so ticked over it (this, of course, doesn't separate this movie out from most of reality). It seemed to me to be a rather mundane expose of some very religious people. The little girl (I forget her name, but she can be seen with a bob haircut in that clip) was sort of adorable, I thought. At one point in the film she and another kid were out trying to talk to people about religion, and she attempted a short conversation with one or more black people, and afterwards said in a hushed voice that she thinks they were Muslim, which amused/bewildered me to no end. I guess their congregation was pretty white, and I didn't hardly know nothin about black folks growing up msyelf, but it still was bizarre. Of course, I can't hardly understand the whole Obama = Muslim thing, either, but at least he's got a funny name.

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I wouldn't say that I consider it adorable when somebody makes a judgment about somebody else solely because they look different or don't believe in what you believe.

I also don't consider it adorable that these children aren't being given a chance to develop their own ideas about the world or even a balanced perspective on it. You might claim that most children get a fairly one-sided view of reality for the first decade of their lives because of their dependence on being around their parents. While this might be true, exposure to various sources of knowledge or institutions such as the school system soon balance out this one-sided view.

My issue with the camps presented in the documentary isn't that the children who attend them end up with a particular set of beliefs; everyone is entitled to believe what he wants. What I find unacceptable in this day and age is that these children don't receive the opportunity to arrive at those beliefs on their own. There's a difference between coming to believe something based on considerations that you've made on your own (carefully weighing scientific evidence against religious scripture over a significant time period and coming to the conclusion that you believe in God) and being indoctrinated from the age of three to believe something you never even had a chance to doubt.

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Mal Shot First wrote:

I wouldn't say that I consider it adorable when somebody makes a judgment about somebody else solely because they look different or don't believe in what you believe.

[voice mode="mildly amused"]Wow. You really *do* take everybody seriously.[/voice]

Jack don't mean jack.

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But... but...

He introduced it with the words "In all seriousness, folks,..."

:(

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atrejub wrote:

Wow. You really *do* take everybody seriously.

You're a shit starter, atrejub.

Jack begins his post with "In all seriousness." I'm goning to have to take Mal Shot First's side on this one, even if it can almost always be assumed that Jack don't mean jack.

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Mal Shot First wrote:

What I find unacceptable in this day and age is that these children don't receive the opportunity to arrive at those beliefs on their own. There's a difference between coming to believe something based on considerations that you've made on your own (carefully weighing scientific evidence against religious scripture over a significant time period and coming to the conclusion that you believe in God) and being indoctrinated from the age of three to believe something you never even had a chance to doubt.

The thing about belief systems is that cold, hard indoctrination is often required for people to consider adopting them. Since most of the ideas that go beyond the observable world require logical lapses, those who would forward the ideas are prone to do so fiercely. Fear-mongering is one way this is done. Even in cases where universal love is proposed as an end goal, fear of the opposite of that is often what drives people to embrace the proposal of universal love. With exceptions. Another way this is done is with the promise of eternal bliss, which is pretty attractive to a lot of people.

Blah blah blah. This is all common sense stuff.

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Ha. Mal Shot First shot first.

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It seems unfortunate to me that kids are indoctrinated in this way, but I understand why it happens. The kids' parents are trying to preserve their own lifestyles by handing them down to the next generation. They also--perhaps unselfishly, even--are doing their best to secure what they believe to be their children's salvation.

It's hard to know what's selfish and what isn't when speaking of filial ties. How far removed is wanting your child to succeed from wanting your genes to succeed?

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And in other news...

Popular Hitler 'Downfall' parodies removed from YouTube; company cites copyright infringement

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/100421/entertainment/us_hitler_youtub...

And lookie who thinks this is just "delightful":

"Abraham Foxman, national director of the (Jewish) Anti-Defamation League, said the league was "delighted."

"We find them offensive," said Foxman of the videos. "We feel that they trivialize not only the Holocaust but World War II. Hitler is not a cartoon character."

Thank Yahweh we have the likes of Abe Foxman to tell us what videos are appropriate for us to watch.

More about the Muslim thing later on.

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Dammit, there was a 'Downfall' video for every occasion.

As far as trivialising Hitler goes, in Britain that is pretty much the standard operating procedure. He was mocked during the war for propaganda purposes, and his mocking has just continued. As one of the most evil men who ever lived, he sure is a figure of fun. When you consider a few things, some of it is justified. Believed in a tall and blonde master race, despite being a short, dark, greasy oik of a man. Came from Austria (which is mockable in itself). Projected his own shortcomings onto others and was terrified of other races. Rumoured to only have one testicle (I know this was just a song!) It actually helps process the horror of some of the things he was responsible for.

I think rather than being pussy-footed around and whispered about in fear, Islamic fundamentalism needs a good mocking. Bin Laden is actually a pretty comical figure when you think about it, skulking around in a cave, recording old fashioned audio tapes threatening all sorts and then one of his followers attempts to detonate his own underwear on a plane. In hindsight, it's comedy gold!!

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Wow...utter hypocrisy shows its head once again in extremist muslim ideology. A muslim friend of mine laughed at this bs earlier tonight. Back a few years ago, Comedy Central didn't want the controversy so they barred Stone and Parker for showing the prophet. Instead, South Park showed Jesus defecating on the American flag at the end of the episode. To which, none of the extremists had any issue whatsoever.

Peace...faith...are thrown right out the window with these extremists, which goes against the preachings of the prophet.

I swear, the extremists need to get beaten over the head with the dictionary, specifically the words "extremism" and "hypocrisy."

Allah and God are sharing a laugh at their shit.

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The muslim folks I know are generally nice people until they get pissed off about something and then there is no stopping them. They are about as hard-headed as they come.

Sent from Dalton's IPad.
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CadderlySoaring wrote:

Allah and God are sharing a laugh at their shit.

Saying "Allah and God" is like saying "he and himself."

I don't know if God is laughing or shaking his head at their stupidity.

Corporal_Hicks wrote:

The muslim folks I know are generally nice people until they get pissed off about something and then there is no stopping them. They are about as hard-headed as they come.

They're like Rocky!

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Daltons chin dimple wrote:

I think rather than being pussy-footed around and whispered about in fear, Islamic fundamentalism needs a good mocking.

There's an old saying, "if you want to be someone's friend, don't insult their religion." Criticizing, debating or even joking about aspects of Islam or Muslim countries are one thing, that's fair comment. But as far as most Muslims are concerned, The Prophet himself is off limits.

We should respect that, I think. Especially if we are serious about wanting a fresh start with the Islamic world. And especially if we know from past experience that it is an incendiary (literally) issue that can potentially cost many lives.

It's common sense. Don't yell fire in a crowded theatre, don't carry a sign saying "I Hate N---ers" on the corner in east St. Louis.

Also, I have to question the motives of some of these newspaper editors and publishers who were printing those cartoons. Are they really concerned about free speech? Or are they just trying to start some shit and sell copy? Call me cynical...

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Bin Laden is actually a pretty comical figure when you think about it, skulking around in a cave, recording old fashioned audio tapes threatening all sorts and then one of his followers attempts to detonate his own underwear on a plane.

Actually, there was a time when he was an heroic figure, a millionaire's son who gave up everything to fight for a (seemingly) lost cause. The actions he may or may not be responsible for from the 90's on may be reprehensible, but his cause (ie, the liberation of the Muslim World from local tyranny and foreign domination) strikes a chord with many.

Many Muslims have the same level of respect for him that Latinos hold for Che Guevara. Or for that matter, that many English, Anglo-Saxon Protestants have for Oliver Cromwell. Liberator to some, terrorist/murderous dictator to others.

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Mal - "wouldn't say that I consider it adorable when somebody makes a judgment about somebody else solely because they look different or don't believe in what you believe. "

Children make judgements about people all the time. I guess they can't help it being kids and all. :)
The thing is, in my opinion, is that ALL children, even those of the most liberal, non-predjudiced families are going to, at least initially, follow suit. So many people disagree with it and think it's wrong for a white kid to gravitate toward other white kids. Their parents may not be racists but if you grow up in a town with no black kids, it's likely you wouldn't immediately gravitate to them.

How many times have you heard of a kid in the grocery store saying something like, "Mommy, that lady's fat!" and the mom is mortified - does that mean the mother goes around calling people fat and hates fat people? No, but kids say and do things like that regardless.

You don't hear people calling parents out for reading Bible stories to kids or taking them to a traditional Sunday school but if they start acting wonky and handing out tracts in the grocery store parking lot and praying outside of an abortion clinic, they are radical.

Extremist Islamics don't represent the religion as a whole, nor does the radical conservative christian represent christianity as a whole. And I'm sure no one here would argue against that.

My post may be disjointed because I had to stop and do an interview.

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Natalie wrote:

How many times have you heard of a kid in the grocery store saying something like, "Mommy, that lady's fat!" and the mom is mortified - does that mean the mother goes around calling people fat and hates fat people? No, but kids say and do things like that regardless.

When the child in your example calls the woman fat, the child is stating an observation about the person based solely on the person's appearance. "Uncle Steve has a really big nose," "Aunt Betty walks funny," and "that man talks like a lady" would all be statements that fit into that category. A child observes a physical trait or something about person's behavior and points out what it is. It can be cute because it shows how children can be unaware of social taboos.

The girl in the documentary makes an inference about the religious beliefs of two men without even having exchanged two sentences with them. Her statement happens on a completely different level than "that lady is fat."

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The Swollen Goi... wrote:

I do my best to remain respectful of others' systems of belief.

I agree. If people want to believe there's an invisible man that lives in the clouds and keeps track of the number of individual hairs on people's heads, more power to them!

Faster and faster, a nightmare we ride. Who'll take the reins when the miracle dies? Faster and faster till everything dies. Killing is our way of keeping alive. - Virgin Steele, Blood and Gasoline
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Quasar wrote:

an invisible man that lives in the clouds and keeps track of the number of individual hairs on people's heads

Now that sounds like a belief system I can get behind! Except for the hair thing, obviously, as he would class me as some kind of un-haired dissenter. A purveyor of folicle heresay.

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Well, I think it's more than that.

Most serious faith systems offer their followers a pathway to a higher set of moral, ethical, or just plain commonsensical guidelines, rules or laws for living in peace and justice with other people.

Maybe, just maybe,..... we(meaning the Human Race).... need some of those.

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(The following is of vague relation to the topic at hand.)

According to Charles Kimball, here are five warning signs for when religion becomes evil (from his book When Religion Becomes Evil: Five Warning Signs):

1. Absolute Truth Claims
2. Blind Obedience
3. Establishing the "Ideal" Time
4. The End Justifies Any Means
5. Declaring Holy War

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How about 6. Inability to deal with an imaginary deity in an imaginary bear costume in a cartoon?

Sorry, feeling particularly flippant this morning. Current annoyances thread would be white hot if I was in there.....

....says "Kill Bond, NOW!"