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Oscars!

Posted by Daltons chin dimple on Monday, February 25, 2013

I was asleep. What did I miss?

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"I saw your boobs!"

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 How dare you!

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I thought Seth was a pretty successful host--for my tastes, at least. The Lincoln joke was stellar. ("I would argue, however, that the actor who really got inside Lincoln's head was John Wilkes Booth." <jeers from audience> "Really? 150 years and it's still too soon, huh?") I saw the punchline coming and I still laughed. 

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 Nothing is funnier than the thinnest skinned audience in the world being upset slap bang in the middle of a back-slapping sycophant-athon!

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The worst thing about the Oscars is that it led to The Onion making a tweet for which it actually apologized. If satire starts apologizing for itself, the terrorists win.

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 I am reading the aftermath (Lord save us from the Internet for giving fucking morons a voice and a channel) but can't find the original tweet.  What happened?

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 Bingo:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2013/02/25/onion_oscars_tweet_horible_joke_about_quvenzhane_wallis_prompts_twitter.html

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 Understand some people were offended.  Don't understand all the black people saying it was racist.

Cunt is blind to race.

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Except when it's directed at a black person.

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 http://news.sky.com/story/1057373/oscars-seth-macfarlane-wont-host-another

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I think it's a bit of a reach to call a little girl a cunt in a public forum and not expect it to offend a lot of people.

The Onion is in the business of making jokes. Jokes can be offensive. That's cool. But you also have to be aware that sometimes what was intended to be a joke comes across just as mean. 

I don't think The Onion was trying to be mean, but that's how it played, and I think it's in pretty poor taste to call a little kid that.

 

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I call Jubboiter worse.

I do it with love.

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I'm still waiting for Jubboiter to arrive in the mail.

I think Jubboiter's waiting for that too.

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In all seriousness, are people actually upset about this shit? Do they just think they're expected to appear to be upset about it?

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 I bet some people are upset. I'm not upset about it. Other people are probably feigning indignation.

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Posted: 8 years 33 weeks ago

It is extremely disappointing, if nothing else.

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But not racist.

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 Calling someone a cunt isn't racist. I can't see how that conclusion could be drawn.

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I'd probably respond the same way to meeting Jack Nicholson.

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Tell that to many, many people on many, many interwebz talkbacks.

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Jennifer Lawrence is awesome.

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Posted: 8 years 33 weeks ago

Daltons chin dimple wrote:

 Understand some people were offended.  Don't understand all the black people saying it was racist. Cunt is blind to race.

I think the context probably matters.

If I understand The Onion's intention correctly, the tweet had two elements to it.
1) It was trying to poke fun at the inane tweets made by media outlets chiefly concerned with coverage of entertainment news (e.g., the E! network), and
2) to demonstrate how much disregard these media outlets have for celebrities as people, The Onion selected a nine-year-old as the target of an offensive comment that probably would have been considered much less offensive (and maybe even funny) by a lot of people had it been directed at an established Hollywood personality. I bet The Onion wouldn't have had to apologize if they had called Joan Rivers a cunt, or even an A-list celebrity like Angelina Jolie.

Instead, The Onion chose a much more unlikely target - a child. This child happens to be black, which makes people wonder why this nine-year-old black girl was singled out for an offensive joke like that. Were there any other children there? If so, why did they pick Quvenzhane Wallis in particular when there are so many white people to choose from?

Anyway, racism wasn't the first thing that occurred to me about that tweet, but it's possible to reconstruct how some people might construe it that way. As Dalty said, "cunt" isn't an insult inherently tied to race, but if you use it to describe one person out the hundreds of people present at the Oscars, and that person happens to be black, people are going to interpret racism into your choice. Context matters.

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The Swollen Goi... wrote:

I'd probably respond the same way to meeting Jack Nicholson.

Or to meeting Jack S. Pharoah.

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